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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39   #41
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I even get confronted on a daily basis by preaching bums.
Same here. Remember; don't let that get to you
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:39 PM // 18:39   #42
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I'm not upset that I can't be in the NAACP
You can be in the NAACP. Hell it was founded(in part) by Whitey.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #43
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No it's not! If I make a guild for anime fans and spam, "Are you an anime fan? Consider joining the Otaku Guild!", I am not implying that if you are not an anime fan you are not "good" enough to join. Just that you probably wouldn't be interested...


Anime fan is a hobby/interest, religion or race is something more serious and a lot more personal. So comparing the two is pointless.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:41 PM // 18:41   #44
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You can be in the NAACP. Hell it was founded(in part) by Whitey.
I don't recall that person. What's his last name?
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #45
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #46
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Ehm..."White People."
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #47
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Anime fan is a hobby/interest, religion or race is something more serious and a lot more personal. So comparing the two is pointless.
I wasn't. I was pointing out a flawed argument, and used an example to demonstrate the flaw in the logic.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #48
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Anybody notice the presence of all those Christianity Ads at the top of the page?

Edit: Nevermind, they went away
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #49
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Mary White Ovington

Touche. Didn't even know that.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:44 PM // 18:44   #50
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I don't think that's true. "Drink from this public fountain" is not the same as "join my personal club". I'm not upset that I can't be in the NAACP, nor do I figure they think they're better than me just because they want their forum to be exclusive to people of a certain kind.

Guildwars is a public game. Thus not letting someone join your guild because of their religion is discrimination. If you dont get hired for a private company because of your race/sex/religion you woulnt consider it disrimination cause it's a "private company"?
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:45 PM // 18:45   #51
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The Internet has a way of reverting some people to middle school. I wouldn't worry about whatever backlash you're getting. It's likely 10 times less offensive than the crap that gets said about Koreans before every stinking round in the Tombs. Some people just enjoy being abusive to everyone they meet who isn't entirely mainstream.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:45 PM // 18:45   #52
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What if i was "Are you white? Consider drinking from this fountain?" you dont think black people would find this offensive?
Christianity is a choice. Last I checked, nobody chose their race.

Alternatively, inviting people who share a common world view is markedly different from excluding someone based on the color of their skin.

More simply, your analogy is flawed and ignorant at best.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #53
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I wasn't. I was pointing out a flawed argument, and used an example to demonstrate the flaw in the logic.
Then i do not understand. How is presenting an irrelevant example point our a flawed argument on a completely unrelated topic?
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #54
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He never said you couldn't join if you were not christian. But, it was also implied that Christians would enjoy the guild more
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #55
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I dont think religion has any place in a game, but neither does the abuse you recieve. People are verbally abused in this game because of their nationality, theres just lots of langers in this game.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:47 PM // 18:47   #56
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Christianity is a choice. Last I checked, nobody chose their race.

Alternatively, inviting people who share a common world view is markedly different from excluding someone based on the color of their skin.

More simply, your analogy is flawed and ignorant at best.
Michael Jackson chose his race
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48   #57
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Christianity is a choice. Last I checked, nobody chose their race.

Alternatively, inviting people who share a common world view is markedly different from excluding someone based on the color of their skin.

More simply, your analogy is flawed and ignorant at best.

What if i advertise my guild as "Intelligent Pvp/pve guild recruiting more members, no christians allowed."

Or i just spam Christians are morons, that wont offend u at all cause christianity is a choice =)
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:48 PM // 18:48   #58
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Michael Jackson chose his race
dang, it's over...
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49   #59
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Anybody notice the presence of all those Christianity Ads at the top of the page?

Edit: Nevermind, they went away
They're still there on my screen. It is odd.
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Old Jun 16, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49   #60
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Guildwars is a public game. Thus not letting someone join your guild because of their religion is discrimination. If you dont get hired for a private company because of your race/sex/religion you woulnt consider it disrimination cause it's a "private company"?
Guildwars is not a public game. It is a product created by a privately held company for the purpose of creating revenue. Additionally, non-profit social organizations are considered private entities and are entitled to have requirements for membership (in fact, they MUST have requirements if they want to incorporate under the official designation, which I believe is 501(c)(3), feel free to correct me ).

Additionally, your lumping together of race and religion as having the same inviolate rights is fallacious. Race is an immutable fact of nature; religion is not.
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